Comments on: EXCLSUIVE : Why the PS3 still isn’t hacked. http://cloudtechnica.com/2008/03/exclsuive-why-the-ps3-still-isn%e2%80%99t-hacked/ Ultimate Place To Find All Tricks n Tips !! Fri, 28 Oct 2011 08:58:57 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Anonymous http://cloudtechnica.com/2008/03/exclsuive-why-the-ps3-still-isn%e2%80%99t-hacked/comment-page-1/#comment-169 Anonymous Sat, 21 Jun 2008 19:51:00 +0000 http://cloudtechnica.com/2008/03/exclsuive-why-the-ps3-still-isn%e2%80%99t-hacked/#comment-169 I think now that Sony is charging for that lame a.s.s Qore enough user will stop buying PS3 games and want a hack. I think now that Sony is charging for that lame a.s.s Qore enough user will stop buying PS3 games and want a hack.

]]> By: Anonymous http://cloudtechnica.com/2008/03/exclsuive-why-the-ps3-still-isn%e2%80%99t-hacked/comment-page-1/#comment-65 Anonymous Tue, 15 Apr 2008 07:37:00 +0000 http://cloudtechnica.com/2008/03/exclsuive-why-the-ps3-still-isn%e2%80%99t-hacked/#comment-65 Awesome article.<br/>And thanks for the info dark neo..that was awesome. Awesome article.
And thanks for the info dark neo..that was awesome.

]]> By: Dark Neo http://cloudtechnica.com/2008/03/exclsuive-why-the-ps3-still-isn%e2%80%99t-hacked/comment-page-1/#comment-58 Dark Neo Sun, 13 Apr 2008 17:09:00 +0000 http://cloudtechnica.com/2008/03/exclsuive-why-the-ps3-still-isn%e2%80%99t-hacked/#comment-58 Good post, sounds like a fair assessment. However there's one small technical inaccuracy:<br/><br/>"and it has less security than the PS3 (which actually has a special "police” program running constantly to ensure that the PS3 remains secure)."<br/><br/>I assume you're talking about the hypervisor here. The Xbox 360 also has a hypervisor, as well as random memory placement for kernel code (if memory serves me - I could be wrong on this though) and encrypted memory. I assume the PS3 has similar protection though.<br/><br/>I think the reason both the Wii and the 360 have been hacked is that the concept was already there for running copied games (and by 'copied' I don't mean for piracy - even though the idea obviously has been used for that). You touched on this in your post but the link is missing.<br/><br/>TheSpecialist (well known amongst the Xbox scene) was the one who originally put the work into implementing an exploit that was originally mused over in the Xbox 1 days. No-one needed it at the time since there were easier and quicker methods of breaking the console available, but he proved the concept originally with an original Xbox and then when other scene members got involved it moved on to the 360 version available today.<br/><br/>Now whether the concept for the Wii exploit (which again involved bypassing security measures in the DVD drive) was directly inspired by the progress on the Xbox, or whether it was just thought up completely separately, I don't know. But it helped crack the console in the same way.<br/><br/>Once copied games can be played on a system, it makes it easier to find exploits within that system. The 360 exploit involved changing files in King Kong to save special code to memory and execute it. Now if we could only play original games, that wouldn't have been possible.<br/><br/>This is definitely one of the (several) reasons PS3 hasn't been hacked yet. PS3 has more security around it's media than the other two consoles, I'm not sure how much though. It may be possible to execute a similar exploit on the PS3 by modifying the firmware in the drive, but a good security system should have the shortest chain of trust it can. So if they've designed it well, the drive will be outside this chain of trust, and nothing you could do to the firmware would help. Good post, sounds like a fair assessment. However there’s one small technical inaccuracy:

“and it has less security than the PS3 (which actually has a special “police” program running constantly to ensure that the PS3 remains secure).”

I assume you’re talking about the hypervisor here. The Xbox 360 also has a hypervisor, as well as random memory placement for kernel code (if memory serves me – I could be wrong on this though) and encrypted memory. I assume the PS3 has similar protection though.

I think the reason both the Wii and the 360 have been hacked is that the concept was already there for running copied games (and by ‘copied’ I don’t mean for piracy – even though the idea obviously has been used for that). You touched on this in your post but the link is missing.

TheSpecialist (well known amongst the Xbox scene) was the one who originally put the work into implementing an exploit that was originally mused over in the Xbox 1 days. No-one needed it at the time since there were easier and quicker methods of breaking the console available, but he proved the concept originally with an original Xbox and then when other scene members got involved it moved on to the 360 version available today.

Now whether the concept for the Wii exploit (which again involved bypassing security measures in the DVD drive) was directly inspired by the progress on the Xbox, or whether it was just thought up completely separately, I don’t know. But it helped crack the console in the same way.

Once copied games can be played on a system, it makes it easier to find exploits within that system. The 360 exploit involved changing files in King Kong to save special code to memory and execute it. Now if we could only play original games, that wouldn’t have been possible.

This is definitely one of the (several) reasons PS3 hasn’t been hacked yet. PS3 has more security around it’s media than the other two consoles, I’m not sure how much though. It may be possible to execute a similar exploit on the PS3 by modifying the firmware in the drive, but a good security system should have the shortest chain of trust it can. So if they’ve designed it well, the drive will be outside this chain of trust, and nothing you could do to the firmware would help.

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